ChristianForums: Hey, edit this.


Categories: Religion

So, in response to the new policy allowing only clinic-bombers to have ribbons, a few things happened. (Note: I have used slight hyperbole. In fact, everyone who identifies as “pro-life” can have ribbons. No one else can.)

One of them is that one of CF’s last remaining real ministers walked away. He posted a powerful message, then scrambled his password and logged out. He quoted Numbers 5 (the passage describing an abortion), then wrote:

pro life, anti new policy

The Bible is not as clear as folks would have you believe, there should be room at the table for both views–I doubt any of us have it right. Let’s be a little less sure of our having “the Truth” and more sure about the love of Jesus and proclaiming His Name to the least, the last, and the lost.


it’s sad, really–people think this is about abortion–it’s not, it’s about political statements in sigs–never before allowed on CF. to those who I’ve wronged by words, actions, silence or lack of action I apologize.
someone should copy this quick, it won’t last

He was right; it got deleted quickly (albeit restored later).

As is so often the case when a good preacher makes a great point, many felt moved to respond. I wrote:

I cannot disagree with Auntie’s claim: You are needed here.

However, under this policy, you, and me, and many others, are not welcome here, and the Christian practice has always been to go, not where we are needed, but where we are welcome.

The Gospel According to St. Matthew, Chapter 10, Verses 10-15

Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat. And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, enquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence. And when ye come into an house, salute it. And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you. And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet. Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.

Goodbye. Not to herev, whom I am sure I will see on and off both in years and eternities to come, but to CF. I will go back to Internet Infidels, where they let me preach the Gospel with fewer restraints, and to other places with fewer restraints still.

This was, of course, edited. Here’s the revised post:

I cannot disagree with Auntie’s claim: You are needed here.

Now, you might think that changes the sense of the post. It does.

It was edited by one of the staff who has long maintained a certain amount of hostility towards me (and, I must admit, I towards her as well). It was edited without following any of the usual procedures, such as notifying someone of an edit.

It was also edited despite not violating any rules.

Why? For the same reason that the thread was deleted. Speaking truth to power never goes over well with power.

Many of us are leaving. The forum’s active membership has been declining; now it’s declining faster.

All the wants you waste
All the things you’ve chased
Then it all crashes down
And you break your crown
And you point your finger
But there’s no one around
Just want one thing
Just to play the king
But the castle’s crumbled
And you’re left with just a name
Where’s your crown King Nothing?