The Dove Foundation: Lying telemarketers

2006-03-07 20:23

So, we got a phone call from some lying telemarketer scum. They asked to speak to “the lady of the house”. (We don’t have one.) I told them not to call. A while later, they called again. We told them not to call.

I got curious and called in to find out who they are. They’re an organization claiming to promote “family-friendly” entertainment.

They give an A-OK rating to Left Behind, the blasphemous, ghoulishly masturbatory, apocalyptic revenge fantasy. They pan the Harry Potter movies for “occultism”. Harry Potter gets attacked for “violence”, but the recent production of The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe is okay. Because, see, a full-scale battle in which all the death happens off-screen is family friendly. It’s like the difference between a movie in which you actually see someone get punched, and the family-friendly entertainment of Gulf War I, where it was just buildings blowing up, with no identified people in them.

My favorite so far is that they attack the Fantastic 4 movie for “occultism”, on the grounds of “references by villain to being a god”. These people don’t understand metaphor, apparently.

These people are delusional, at best. They are dangerous, they are deceitful, and they promote evil.

But, frankly, what really bugs me is that they’re also telemarketers who have disregarded our request to not call us anymore.

Actually, one other thing is worth noting: They hang up on you. As soon as they’ve decided you’re not gonna give them money, they hang up. Because, see, your time isn’t worth anything; only theirs is.

Edited to add: For hilarity, read the glowing and supportive review of the Dove foundation posted at Family First. Then read the comments. And more comments. These people have been doing annoying telemarketing for a long time, and they don’t seem inclined to stop. They are, just as they seem to be, money-grubbing psychos who are out to rip off naive Christians who are afraid of the world.

Peter Seebach

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Comments

  1. Just more liars for jebus.


    — Goliath · 2006-03-11 01:14 · #

  2. Yeah, pretty much. It still bugs me.

    seebs · 2006-03-11 04:17 · #

  3. I was just called on my cell phone. 877 291-7322 by "Cammy Argyle." What is so amusing is she kept asking for the lady or man of the house. Here she is, talking to me and I sure don't sound like a child or a housekeeper. I kept asking who she was working for and she said the dove foundation. But since I wouldn't say if I was the man or the lady of the house she wanted to hang up (and did). How stupid is that?? They've figured out that only the idiots who go along with their "lady of the house" crap must be dumb enough to buy their lies.

    — another annoyed human · 2006-04-26 21:46 · #

  4. That's not all. In my case, the caller identified herself as "the county" when she asked for "the lady of the house." Could this constitute FRAUD???
    In any case, alert everyone that the Dove Foundation is another big telemarketing SCAM.

    — Charles II · 2006-04-27 08:31 · #

  5. Those calls from Cammy are from a IVR (Interactive Voice Response) system. A computer, if you will. Show your love for them by visiting the website of the Michigan Attorney General. They have a nifty online complaint section. Missouri Attorney General Jax Nixon got a restraining order against the Dove Foundation; details are on his website.

    — John Young · 2006-06-08 04:34 · #

  6. My mom was in the other room while i got a dove foundation call. When I picked up they asked for a Susan, I said she does not live here. so they told me they were the dove foundation, and asked if there were any children under the age of 16 in the household. i said "your talking to one, and susan does not live here for the last time!" the woman said "thank you for your time" and just hung up.

    — meeee · 2006-06-22 16:23 · #

  7. This bitch calls me, wants to speak with the lady of the house. I asked her what she wanted, again wants to speak to the lady of the house. Second time I ask, what do you want? She says I'm with the Dove Foundation. That did it. I told her she was nothing more than a fucking telemarketer to get off my phone. I know who the Dove people are. They want YOUR money for their bull shit cause. SOCIALIST THINKING ASSHOLES! Don't give these bums a second of your time. They want your money AND your name to show that YOU support their cause to help poor niggers and Mexicans.

    — RDR · 2006-07-11 11:17 · #

  8. To RDR:
    Talking to that Dove Foundation computer is like talking to a drunk or a drug abuser. An incoherent conversation ensues. Remember, if you told the non-profit Dove Foundation's robot to stop calling you and they call you again, it is a violation of the law.

    — John Young · 2006-07-14 18:54 · #

  9. Ms Argyle is busy! Called me and asked for lady of the house. Our phone is unlisted. She kept pushing - I pushed back. Yup - she hung up as soon as she realized I wasn't letting go of anything in my pockets.

    — Steve · 2006-07-18 09:18 · #

  10. I just got the call from Dove. Extremely annoying. So I looked at their web site for contact info so I could complain: no phone numbers, just a web form. But, if you look on the financial information form, there is the name and home address of the chairman and the directors. The chairman's phone is listed in the phone book
    (Dick Rolfe, (616) 681-0578). So I called him at home on a Friday evening. I suggest everyone do that.

    It was interesting: he said that the reason the respresentative can't answer questions too well is that she's actually a recording, or rather a set of dozens of recordings, with responses to most questions. A real human listens to you and plays the right bits. But--get this--the human is monitoring four calls at once! So she can't do a great job of it! Unbelievably insulting that they waste people's time with that. Dick seemed to think it was all justied toward the end of getting hollywood to produce better films, but maybe if he gets enough calls this will change.

    — CRS · 2006-08-11 19:07 · #

  11. This creep called wanting "the lady of the house". I said she is not here, and what do you want with her? She started on the Dove thing, got about two sentences out and I asked her if they were supported by any political action group. She hung up. If they call again, I will take action. I told them not to.

    — Sharan · 2006-09-18 16:49 · #

  12. same as all the above with the calls...lady of the house...hanging up when I didn't fit into the "right" answer category. Something needs to be done to stop these Nazis. I just gave Dick a hang up, but I've got a few things to say when I have the time. Anyone have info on actions being taken against this group??

    — Angry Consumer · 2006-10-11 13:34 · #

  13. Still the same drill in October 2006. I also noted on another site they do not qualify as a charity and nearly 30 percent of their budget is for expenses and fundraising. My money goes to more efficient groups with whom I am more in sympathy. My preference is Food for the Poor

    — Pat · 2006-10-18 19:14 · #

  14. Thank goodness I did some research. They wanted to sell some independently produced kids films, but my biggest concern was that they had some sort of religious affiliation or backing. The "family values" they kept talking about made me very nervous.
    And while I do think that a G rating doesn't mean much anymore (anybody read the hood sticker on Lightning McQueen??) I am not about to leave it to religious whackos to try to dictate what my children watch.

    — Gayle · 2006-11-03 22:02 · #

  15. I thought their was something fishy about that voice..., al-
    most human, but still a computer activated, but not yet adapted for any insurmountable contingencies..., need's work!

    — Roger M. Angress · 2006-11-08 15:58 · #

  16. I just got a call from Cammie at the Dove Foundation. This woman must work 24/7. When i tried to determine what the Dove Foundation is, she started to speak in circles about family friendly entertainment and didn't I agree with her and when I challengened further she said they were only trying to protect...and before she got any further. I hung up and checked them out. I think these are very scary people.
    Tell other like minded friends to be ware of Cammie and the "birds"

    — Beth Bloom · 2006-11-08 19:37 · #

  17. November 14 -- 1100 hours: Dove has "invaded" Oregon. "Cammie" asked for the lady of the house but had to settle for me. I asked who financed the Dove Foundation and she replied with a name (see above postings for name and home phone number). As "she" pressed for personal information I responded that I wasn't about to give her any info about me or my family, asked not to be called again, and hung up.
    Such automated calles are a pain in the neck and Dove apparently is a scofflaw about federal and state Do Not Call regulations.
    Remember, you have just as much control over an unwanted phone intrusion as you do over unwanted/poor taste/etc television material: hang up on them.

    — Mike · 2006-11-14 13:38 · #

  18. It's not a live person!

    This is the first such call we've received - using voice recognition and artificial intelligence to try to convince you that you're having a conversation with a live person.

    Distrubingly and falsely, if you accuse it of being a computer, it claims that it's a real person.

    And the one line it does not understand is, "Take Us Off Your Call List," to which it replies, "okay, well we'll just call back later."

    This kind of trickery is going to become more and more sophisticated. Beware!

    — Douglas · 2006-11-15 12:06 · #

  19. Okay. I got a call this am. Oh, so it was a sales call. Hmm. I thought Bill Gates was personally calling me to let me know he will be sending a nice laptop to me for my birthday or something.

    — tom · 2006-11-16 13:31 · #

  20. I, too, have been called several times by "Cammie". I tracked it down to "The Dove Foundation" and its annoying practices. I, too, called the chairman (Dick Rolfe, 616-681-0578) on Friday evening and interrupted him while he was at a restaurant. I asked him to take me off their list. I encourage you to do the same.

    — Bill · 2006-11-17 19:48 · #

  21. DONT TRY TO USE MY CHILDREN AS A PAWN TO TO HELP OTHERS THATS JUST WRONG YOU WANNA HELP DONATE TO A CHURCH OR LOCAL CHARITY AND PRAY FOR THOSE FAMILIES

    — A CARING PARENT · 2006-11-21 09:11 · #

  22. I just got a call asking for "the lady of the house". I asked her who she was and said she's from the Dove Foundation. I immediately hung up on her. Can't something be done when a person has their name on a do not call list, to stop these senseless idiots from making these calls?

    — Jane · 2006-11-21 10:39 · #

  23. Cammie came to Florida this morning, unfortunately. I thought I would be nice and give this person the benefit of the doubt, since I work on the phones. Little did I know that it's not a real person. What bothered me the most is how leading the questions were, "Wouldn't it be nice if..." I work for a survey company and we are told from day one that we are to remain neutral at all times and never lead the respondents on the phone. The "survey" Cammie took was extremely offensive and leading. They had better not call me again.

    — Hilary · 2006-11-21 15:50 · #

  24. Cammie came to Staten Island NY-if I had known it was not a real person I would have hung up-I did agree to having someone call me back because they would not take "no" for the answer. I do screen my calls and will let my machine pick up until they get tired of calling. Usually I let my machine pick up anyway and until I know who is calling I do not pick up the phone. I am on the "do not call list"-guess that means nothing to them!

    — Pat · 2006-11-30 17:09 · #

  25. December 6 9 am
    Sure enough, Cammy from Dove Foundation called. I'm on the no call list. When I asked if she was calling for money. She hung up. Now I know it is a computer after checking up on the Foundation. Bad thing.

    — Betty · 2006-12-06 11:16 · #

  26. These people are worse than hipocrits.

    "Hello i'm Cammie from the dove foundation that is D O V E. Can I talk the the Lady of the House."

    Those ignorant LYING telemarkers!

    It is ILLEGAL to do what they do.

    — Mitch · 2006-12-12 11:53 · #

  27. This morning at 9:00 a.m. Cammie came to Iowa. I looked at my caller I.D. (it said Dove Foundation)and I didn't pick up. Later I looked it up on the internet, and now I am glad I didn't bother answering. I hate being annoyed by telemarketers. I am also on the 'do not call list'. If they call again Dick will be hearing from me.

    — Sheila · 2006-12-14 11:22 · #

  28. These people keep freaking calling me also!! I don't even know how they got my number and I'm not even head of the household. My sister played a joke on me by using "the bot" and they will NOT stop calling, even after I told them NO.
    I hate this crap and I sent them an email.
    If they call again, I'm going to the police. *argh*!!

    — Jessica · 2006-12-18 14:18 · #

  29. I have been seeing this "Dove Foundation" on our caller ID once or TWICE a day for the last several weeks! They have called as early as 8 am and as late as 8 pm. Also, they are annoying as hell, because they leave hang-up messages on our answering machine. When I saw their name on the Caller ID about a week ago, I answered the phone but I just waited and didn't say anything. Then, I heard, "Hi, this is Cammie from the Dove Foundation". When I remained silent, she repeated it and then hung up on me.

    So, Dove just called again and I answered, only to be asked the very leading questions mentioned here. She kept pressing me to allow a follow-up phone call, which just seemed odd to me. Finally, I asked for her company's website info and said I would just check that, but do NOT call me again. She kept insisting, and I told her that our number was on the Do Not Call list, at which point she said okay, we'll take note of that.

    I only wish that I had Googled this Dove Foundation before I took the call. I knew the call seemed weird, I should have known it was a computer call trying to make me think I was talking with a real person. I see that this company has been doing this for at least a couple of years. It's hard to believe that these tactics work for them, but they must be able to fool some people and get some money out of it, or they would have stopped by now. I almost hope they call again so I can screw with their computer responses. And when they say they want to call me again - I'll give them that number above for Dick Rolfe, (616) 681-0578!

    — NJ · 2006-12-21 19:06 · #

  30. I've received 2 calls now from The Dove Foundation and the "lady" calling asks for Frances (my deceased mother-in-laws name was Frances) and I asked for the last name of the person she was trying to reach. Then she said "may I speak to the lady of the house". This morning when she called I told her that she had already called us and the response was "our records show that the survey was not completed" (this was because I hung up on her). She said "it will only take a minute" and my response was "OK hurry up". At that point she hung up. If she calls again asking to speak to Frances my response will be "try her at 1-800-HEAVEN.

    — JCS · 2006-12-22 08:31 · #

  31. Idiots!!!! The Dove Foundation is just trying to protect your children!!! Or have you already murdered(aborted) them. You liberal dyke hags sicken me!! Go to hell!!!

    — martha · 2007-01-05 13:32 · #

  32. Oh, my gosh. That's horrible! An organization that wants to protect children from the crap on TV. Even worst, they understand the importance of families? Who do they think they are? What gives them the right to care? Those bastards. lol

    If I were them I would keep calling on speed dial, just because any adult that thinks their entertainment is more important than the health and welfare of child, deserves a lot worst than a call.

    Get a life!

    Idiots.

    — dale · 2007-01-05 19:52 · #

  33. Answer every question as if you want more R rated moves and no family rated moves. The last message was that they would take no more of my time. They have called about 50 times before. Wonder if they will call back

    — Andy · 2007-01-09 20:23 · #

  34. I finally got a Human voice at the 800 number that kept calling me. I called and asked for Cammie. I was told by Cammie, that she didn't work there. Cammie explained that they were a charity and what they did, and asked if I wanted to take the survey. I said yes, but then Cammie asked for my phone number, I said I didn't want to be called again, Cammie asked me if I wanted to be put on the "do not call list" I said yes, is asked my phone number, which I gave, Cammie tried to hang up, but I asked it to repeat the number, A real live scratchy voice came on the phone and awkwardly repeated the number. I thanked her. And the phone went dead with no more Goodbye from Cammie. Hopefully they will behave like Christians and not lie to me again.

    — Billi · 2007-01-11 08:30 · #

  35. I typed the Dick Rolfe number into Google and it came back to a Richard Wnuk Jr. I think calling Dick Rolfe is great, but you might want to be sure you aren't just annoying an innocent party before dialing that number.

    — Ray Carty · 2007-01-11 19:50 · #

  36. When I asked who DOVE was and couldn't get a straight answer I knew something was up. People like this certainly give Christianity a bad name.

    — Marie · 2007-01-12 10:43 · #

  37. I received a telephone call from "Tammy" of the Dove Foundation on 1/13/2007, Saturday at 12:20 p.m. This is how the call went:

    Telephone rings
    Me:"Good afternoon"
    Caller: [pause, no sound] "This is Tammy with the Dove Foundation. May I speak to the lady of the house."
    Me: "She is not here." [In fact there is no lady of the house.]
    Tammy: "I will be calling back . . . "
    Me: [I hung up the phone while she was in mid-sentence]


    — Mike Monster · 2007-01-13 11:35 · #

  38. Got the call this morning...did not answer it just looked up the 800 number that was displayed on the phone. Gotta love google...discovered it was this useless time wasting excuse for human excrement wanting money. I did like the posts that list the bosses phone number. I suggest that you all do what i'm a about to and call every hour until this
    punk ceases this business. If he receives a call from everyone at all hours and minutes of the day then maybe he'll get the message that we dont want to be disturbed either.

    — PO'd in Kansas · 2007-01-15 09:00 · #

  39. These people are the worst I have encountered. They sent me movies I insisted I didn't want with of course an INVOICE!!!!!! Called to send them back and was told to keep them. Now I keep getting intimidating letters. On the phone they said they'd fire who ever sent the movies I didn't want. NEXT... they said can I have your credit card!!!!!!!!!!!
    These people have absolutely no respect for people or families. I hope to report the Dove foundation and Featurte Films for Families to the Better Buisiness Bereau. It probably won't make a difference but it's on principle.
    www.bbb.org

    — giselle · 2007-01-15 12:19 · #

  40. It's 9:30 a.m. and I just received a call from Cammie. Asking for me by name, then asking for the Lady Of The House and hanging up after I said she wasn't here. But I don't want her to call back. I don't know how to avoid being on their list!

    — Jane · 2007-01-19 11:59 · #

  41. i'm 48 years old & if i feel like watching porn, that my personal business .. i got a call from cammie .. i have caller id & she had to leave a message .. 'hello - this is cammie from the dove foundation - thank you for your time' click .. i love caller id .. they should let everyone have it for free .. would save people from so many headaches .. ok .. just my 2 cents worth here.

    — rose · 2007-01-20 12:54 · #

  42. I got my second call from this creepy "foundation" this morning. The first time, when the woman started asking how I felt about the "edgy" programming, I stopped her right there and told her I don't agree with her views, and hung up. On the call I received this morning, I realized that it was the same woman, speaking the same phrases. The conversation proceeded along the same path as last time. I hung up again, then I called the 800 number back from my caller ID. I got a recording, which stated their position again, then told me that if I wanted to be put on their "do not call" list, to leave my number after the message. I did that, along with my own message of, "Get a life, you losers!" I'm curious to see whether they call me back or not, but if they do, I've made note of the date and time that I made the "do not call" request, and I'll report them.

    — Dan · 2007-01-22 21:32 · #

  43. I almost never pick up for
    toll-free calls but I thought
    it might be about a new
    brokerage account we were
    setting up. Really jerked
    a knot in my tail. I googled
    up a map from my place to
    their place and pasted the link into their website's comment box along with a link to the wiki article on the S&W 500 and sat for a few
    minutes then sent them an
    email instead. Use address
    "movies@dove.org" and subject
    "Please add me to your do not call list." with your phone
    number as the message body.
    This is better than an oral
    request since it gets logged
    so they can't lie about it
    afterwards.

    — Lew · 2007-01-24 00:16 · #

  44. The Dove Foundation
    535 E. Fulton Ste. 1A
    Grand Rapids, MI 49503
    (616) 454-5021

    Call this number and specifically request to be put on the do not call list. I have no idea yet if that will suffice but I figure it is better than nothing.

    — Dove Sucks · 2007-01-24 13:30 · #

  45. I just got a call from the Dove foundation..

    It's an automated telemarketing company.
    Then when a so called live person got on the line she wanted my personal infomation of my checking account.
    I said to the young lady I dont give out that information over the phone, Then I started asking a whole lot of questions. then she hung up.

    Something told me to google this so called foundation. This what I found. And I'm on th do not call list.

    I will be filing a complaint!

    — Miss G · 2007-01-26 17:56 · #

  46. Wow - I wish I had known about this "Dove Foundation" before they called me tonight! I was driving into my garage when my husband said "there's a telemarketer on the phone, she asked for the lady of the house". When I asked him why he didn't tell her to buzz off, he didn't really have an answer.

    So I answer the phone "hello?" and right away, this woman/robot launches into this diatribe about "edgy" programming and when she finally came up for air I said, "well, I don't have kids so this isn't something I even think about" and she said something like "well, you don't have to be involved with children to care about this issue". So I let her go on a little more and then she used the absolute worst, right-wing shitism infested, meaningless term of all time:

    "family values"

    I stopped her and said, "you've just used a phrase - family values - that gets my hackles up. I don't think we should continue this conversation. But thank you for calling!"

    She hung up on me.

    Now I'm almost hoping she calls back, because now I want to play some mind games with her.

    — gempdx · 2007-01-27 00:36 · #

  47. Those fuckers have been calling me since June of '06. I have asked them more than 3 times to put me on their "Do Not Call List". They called me this morning at 9. I just repeated in a robotic voice "Operator", it only took two times, you do indeed get a voice operator. I told her big time. I told her if they call back, I will make sure you get fined so far up the ass and investigated by every government agency known in existence from the BBB to the CIA.

    — The Fatman · 2007-01-27 20:10 · #

  48. I too received a call yesterday, January 29, 2007, in New York City and immediately red flags got raised. She would not answer questions directly, etc. similar to what everyone has said before.

    WHAT IS GOING TO BE DONE ABOUT THEM? Should we all report them to the Attorney General? If the government wants to use their time wisely, they should go after the real CRIMINALS, like them who are trying to scam us.

    — Liz · 2007-01-30 07:51 · #

  49. I received a call on my fax number, the name on the caller ID says Dove Foundation, 616-361-2855, however, the fax that I received says it's from Domain Registry Support. Thank god for the internet, in looking up both names I discover that both are scamming scum.

    — Larry B · 2007-01-30 15:29 · #

  50. I just got a call from the Dove Foundation again. A few months ago they called and I told them that I believe in family responsibility and I hung up. Today the same woman called back and tried to say that we got "disconnected" before she got my full name. How creepy! I told her I wasn't interested and did not supply my name.

    There is definitely something shady going on with these folks.

    — MK · 2007-02-01 09:06 · #

  51. I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE WITH CALLER I.D. BUT IF I AM,YOU GUYS NEED TO CATCH UP.JUST KIDDING,THANKS FOR ALL THE TESTIMONIALS ABOUT THE D.F.I JUST GOT CALLED AND SAW THEIR NUMBER ON MY C.I.AND DIDN'T ANSWER.NOW I'M GLAD I DIDN'T.EVERYONE SHOULD ALSO THINK MAYBE ABOUT A CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT.ON HARRASSMENT CHARGES.I'M SURE THIER IS SOMEONE IN HERE WHO HAS A LAWYER IN THE FAMILY.

    — GR · 2007-02-07 09:05 · #

  52. Dove calls me daily.. I do not answer as I am aware .. to remove your name from their call list, visit their website at Dove Foundation and scroll down... the option is there

    — Madison · 2007-02-07 10:38 · #

  53. Better than Dick, call Scott Rolfe, Communications Director, all hours of the night at his home in Delton, MI at (269) 623-4996.

    — Mork from Ork · 2007-02-08 15:05 · #

  54. I just had a little bit of fun with these people. They had called me on several occasions in the past, and I obviously became wise to the fact that I was not speaking to a real person. On those past occasions, I simply hung up. This time, I decided to mess with the computer. Their interactive computer called and asked for me. I confirmed it was me, and realized after they identified themselves it was just a computer. So, I decided to play like an idiot: asking if they were involved with soap or chocolate, asking if they made movies about chocolate, etc. etc. This went on for a few minutes, I think Finally, a frustrated live operator came on the line and asked me "Sir, are you going to listen to..." And that was it, I just hung up...and laughed a whole lot. Quite fun, actually. I'll do that again next time they call. You might want to give it a try; lots of fun! :-)

    — Scott Gurstein · 2007-02-09 11:17 · #

  55. THESE PEOPLE ARE NUTS! they are scum!

    — TANIA R. · 2007-02-09 19:00 · #

  56. I 'especially' enjoy those morons in this forum who advocate what this INVASIVE Dove 'cartel' is doing.

    So you suggest they 'preach family values' through their 'edited' movies. If you believe that, you just admitted to being a bad parent. You feel 'family values' comes from watching movies - rather than direct intervention through the 'father-mother' responsibilities. Is YOUR 'Christian way' to tell your kids to, "... watch this movie and you'll grow up to be a wonderful person?" If you don't have PERSONAL time for your kids, perhaps you shouldn't have kids in the first place!!!!

    And what part of 'do not call' do you NOT understand??? When someone does NOT want to be bothered, this is without exception. There is such a law as 'disturbing the peace' and 'invasion of privacy'.

    Additionally, I was annoyed when I got a call from these morons and they wasted 5 seconds of my time before I hung up. Yet, I come to this 'forum' only to waste over an hour trying to find relevant contact information on who to file a suit on and I need to 'wade through' hundreds of 'whining' entries. HEY!!! WE KNOW THEY'RE ANNOYING!!! AND, we know the 'lady of the house' line - it's not necessary to repeat the conversation a few hundred times!!!!

    Read the last hundred or so comments above and, after doing so, ask yourself what 'resolve' you have gained! All you've done is waste YOUR time FAR MORE than that damned 'foundation' has!

    Through your 'personal experiences', you are ALL wasting far more time than this 'phony phoundation' is. Drop the damned 'personal complaints' in this forum and put some RELEVANT infomation here. Such as:

    Where to call/write to initiate a lawsuit; link to class action suit against these morons; information on what to say/write which HAS ALREADY BEEN EFFECTIVE in getting the calls to stop; links to those whose JOB includes dealing with these bastards - and how to contact them to inquire as to why they're NOT doing their job; etc..

    Get the picture? Don't waste everyone's time 'whining' about your personal 'phone time' with these bastards. If you don't have something CONSTRUCTIVE to add, don't write anything! It's just that much more people have to wade through in TRYING TO FIND useful information.

    (BTW, the attorney generals office in Michigan doesn't have any specific info on this 'foundation')


    — Al · 2007-02-15 13:37 · #

  57. I got the call a couple of days ago, but I was requested by my first name and not "lady of the house". The rest sounds like the same spiel though. I'm on DNC registry also.

    — CBS · 2007-02-26 21:48 · #

  58. someone should take these people to Detroit and leave them in the middle of 8mile. after 6 calls in 1 day you think that they would figure out no one's answering and no will. the dnc registry only works for telemarketers that are selling a product or a service. dove foundation claims to be a "charitable" organization which is exempt
    for under the rules of dnc.
    RAT BASTARDS!!!! I would like to think that i am intelligent enough to decide what is or is not appropiate for my child. not some self-appointed self righteous S.O.B. who probably are putting more money in their pockets then into their fight for so-called morality.

    — pamela burgess · 2007-02-27 18:32 · #

  59. THEY JUST CALLED ME, LIKE 2 MINUTES AGO.


    — Rob · 2007-03-07 18:01 · #

  60. Cammie/Cammy just hit Hawai'i.

    When I asked the voice if she were human, she replied, "Yes, do I sound like a computer?" I appoligized and she went on with her pitch. When she finished, I asked "her" who the first president of the US was." Hung up.

    — Cosmio · 2007-03-07 18:53 · #

  61. The Dove PC just called Morgan Hill, California. I've been on the DNC list since it started.

    — Al · 2007-03-07 22:51 · #

  62. well, if a quarter of you could learn how to raise your children, the dove foundation wouldn't be necessary. Simply plopping your kid in front of the television as a babysitter is ridiculous. plus, all this bitching about answering a phone call. do yourselves a favor- answer the goddamn phone. you all are like a bunch of kids, whining about something that is a simple fix. grow up.

    — genny · 2007-03-08 14:43 · #

  63. Dove Foundation isnt a scam.
    You people need to CALM DOWN.
    There are people on the other end of the computer pushing the buttons. Its their job. It might not be the best job, but they need money to feed THEIR children and pay their bills.
    They dont "edit" movies.. They produce good wholsome movies for the whole family to enjoy. If you just give them a chance.. They arent bad people.
    They use the automated voice for quality control purposes. If you let them go on with their speil, then thats the end of it... You wouldnt want a Live agent telling you lies, or the message in a wrong way would you?

    Ugh.. This annoys me.

    — Youknowwho · 2007-03-09 02:50 · #

  64. I have never answered this call, but it's always from this #616-361-2855 and says Dove Foundation on my CID. Thanks to y'all I won't be answering.

    — Cindy · 2007-03-09 22:31 · #

  65. You know, it's funny. The apologists for the workers are making an argument that works just as well for the movie industry.

    As to genny's slimy attempt to portray people who don't like frequent and dishonest harassment as bad parents, there's not much to say; it's vicious, it's bitter, and it's totally uncalled for. That kind of defensiveness shows that, in fact, the criticisms of the Dove Foundation are right on target. They're scammers pushing a cure that's way worse than the disease.

    I got news for you, genny. The Dove Foundation has no reason to exist except for those same crappy parents who think the TV should just magically be okay for their kids. Without those people, the entire exercise is just pointless. Get back to whiting your sepulchres, some of us have stuff to do.

    — Peter Seebach · 2007-03-10 06:43 · #

  66. Folks: You are not speaking to a "live" person. You are getting a pitch from a very sophisticated computer messaging system. It is difficult to ascertain who Dove really is, but I suspect they are rather right of center & religiously oriented.

    — Paul · 2007-03-26 08:11 · #

  67. These people called me at 7:15am.. when I asked if they realized what time it was, they said yes but their cause was worth it. Are they insane? If you have kids at this time in the morning you're getting them off to school. They were very insistent that I purchase some videos and on and on.. the funny thing is our number is ALREADY on the do not call list - so how are they getting away with it?

    — Chez · 2007-03-28 06:29 · #

  68. Someone called my home tw times; both before 8:30am
    Fed me a Stepford Line of Bull about not having the money of Disney,told me how wonderful they are; etc. etc, etc. This stepford droner was a top of his game. In lieu of arguing with him, I hung up on him. The nerve...assuming the lady of the house is a fool. This group is scary and should be stomped to death. Beware!

    — roeaton · 2007-03-28 21:31 · #

  69. 8:25 pm the phone rings. I look at the caller I.D. it says Dove Foundation, They ask for the lady of the house, I tell there is no lady of the house, so they ask for the man of the house. I ask who is calling
    But all I hear is silence. After 30 or more seconds, I ask, "are you there? After 10 more seconds I hear a voice with a very intimidating tone trying to get me to buy whatever they are selling, just something to the effect that I'm being unhelpful. Then to add insult to injury she hangs up, never having identified themselves.

    But since I have caller I.D. I do some research. I find that the tactics used on me are identical to what thy use on others.
    I also discover they have been recently fined $70,000.00 for Do Not Call regulations.
    I check to see if they are listed in the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability ECFA, and they are not there.

    This is dead giveaway that they can't be trusted.

    Following other website links about them I file complaints with the FCC, the Michigan Attorney General, and the Do not call registry.

    Everyone who has written here should follow through with every agency they can complain to so this bunch of crooks gets put behind bars.
    One would think that after being fined $70,000.00 they would stop violating the do not call laws.

    Also one would think all organizations that claim to be Christian are crooked.

    First of all, even if we all make mistakes, no organization as crooked as this, and some others who are often in the news for doing things like claiming to heal people, living in 5 million dollar mansions are not true Christians.
    True Christian Organizations do not spend millions of dollars on television ads.
    I sponsor Children through a wonderful organization; I've never seen them advertise on TV. They do not stuff my mailbox with requests for more money. In fact, the almost don't write at all. I get quarterly reports for my taxes. I get letters from my child. And they tell me if for any reason I am not able to continue sponsoring my child, not to worry about it, they will make sure my child has a new sponsor.
    I've been sponsoring with them for 14 years, I've visited a child project in Brazil. Every project is part of a local church. And all the workers are locals. So the culture of each country is respected.

    If I told you their name, you would not recognize it. Compassion International.

    So don't get the idea every crook on TV or on the telephone that pretends they are Christians are true Christians.

    And everyone please report these crooks, type in dove foundation and follow the links to report them.

    Oh, I didn't realize it was a recording, it does make sense though, because it was so unresponsive.
    Still if I made a recording, I doubt I would make it so rude. But then I don’t know or want to know how crooks work.

    — steve · 2007-03-30 02:25 · #

  70. i just got a call from them where they were knocking disney. i stopped her right there. i told her any organisation knocking disney there has got to be something wrong with them. so i asked to them not ever call again.fraud written all over their statements|

    — victoria · 2007-04-03 18:55 · #

  71. Hmmm, this talk of Cammie being computerized got me to wondering. so I called back the 800-679-0336 number the call came from. sounded like a live person, but they said I had 20 seconds to ask one question about Dove. I waited a couple seconds then said "is this a computer" at which time another voice came on...a seamingly live one. I said gee, you aren't the voice I had just a second ago, she said no, I am the computer operator. I said thank you that was all I need to know and hung up.

    — Sandy · 2007-04-04 19:37 · #

  72. I just hung up on Cammy. There was a long slience after I asked her to repeat that the Dove Foundation had raised over 100 million dollars for this effort. I then stated emphatically that 100 million dollars could be better spent on things such as feeding the poor, providing health coverage to the sick and maybe cleaning up New Orleans. This is after poor Cammy had to listen to me rant that cinema is a democratic art form and after all movies are a luxury, everytime we don't see a movie we save money...oh well, poor cammy called the wrong house.

    — mjd · 2007-04-06 09:35 · #

  73. I got a hang-up robo call today. when I googled them & got this site, i phoned the #, the person answering said, "customer service." I asked why they answered that way as though they were a store, etc. the woman on the other end covered the mouthpiece (but not too well) and was asking someone in the office, "she's asking how they got her # and why we don't leave a message when we call..." I said to them, "I can hear you!" and they switched to the auto response prompts.Then i asked for a live person and one came on the line! I scolded them when she began the Dove Foundation rant, and said, "would you like to get hang-up calls like this?" and "I shouldn't have to google a legitimate organization." I am now going to call the Foundation Director on a Friday night, sounds like fun!

    — wiser · 2007-04-10 10:29 · #

  74. They call at least twice a week. Once this past weekend, I picked up and an electronic voice asked to speak to the lady of the house. I hung up. They just called a moment ago and I let the answering machine pick up. No message left behind (ha ha).

    — JA Hitchcock · 2007-04-11 08:06 · #

  75. Cammie called Arizona today...she left her 800# on my caller ID, but was too chicken shit to leave her name, or the name of her company. I called the #800 and spoke to a real live person. She asked if I had 20 secs to listen to her. I told her no, and once again asked her to reveal her company name. I asked her not to call again, as I am on the do not call list, i pay for an unlisted & unpublished phone #. She asked for my number to remove it from the call list! NEVER give your phone # to any list...it legally gives these idiots the right to SELL your phone #!!!!

    — The Lady of The House · 2007-04-11 18:37 · #

  76. How on earth do I get rid of these people. since that initial call from "Cammy", I have been inundated with calls for the lady of the house, also computers from what I can tell, same as Cammy. aaaaack. they call my cell and home phones at the same time, according to my caller id.

    — Sandy · 2007-04-11 19:49 · #

  77. I think Cammy/Tammy has changed her name to Tina, at least in my region. She sounds like a Stepford wife that was programmed by Phyllis Shafly. I immediately thought this was in some way related to Dove Soap & their equally obnoxious and opportunistic ad campaign promoting so called "real women" which is now featuring badly photographed naked old ladies. I wanted to tell Tina that if she's really into protecting children's delicate sensibilities, that seeing their grandmother naked in a magazine centerfold would be enough to qualify for a few years of psychotherapy. I too am on the National No Call List which is also totally disregarded by political candidates of all parties during election years. Who enforces these things?

    — Cheryl · 2007-04-11 20:41 · #

  78. First of all, I'm not the Dove's Tina. Heck they would ban my website in a new york second.

    I just hung up from one of those bots. I would like to know if there is a group out there that a person could join that is against the Dove Foundation. I am tired of dictating buggers out there spreading their idea's and values like no one else is allowed to have their own. I have one word for them ... Freedom.

    I figure it is time for me to join a group to protect my rights as I know they will be coming down on me soon. Point me to a link.

    I would add a link to my web site but it has adult content on it and well, I do respect the innocent and other peoples rights. (Unlike the Dove Foundation)

    — Tina · 2007-04-12 16:26 · #

  79. It is about time that more than just words were aimed at this sleeziest of fradulent telemarketing schemes. I, personally, am going to contact the Fraud division of the Better Business Bureau, as well as any other organization that I can contact with my message. In the meanwhile, while the wheels of "revenge" turn, we should all ban together and jam the 800 line of these idiots with thousands of calls on a daily basis. Taking a gentle hint is not in their reality, but perhaps by fighting back with our calls might just annoy them enough to rethink their strategy.

    — Rex Richards · 2007-04-14 00:59 · #

  80. I GOT CALLED BY THESE CENSOR MINDED IDOITIC MORONS TWICE AND CALLED THE DO NOT CALL 800 NUMBER TO FILE A COMPLAINT. THEN I CALLED DOVE FOUNDATION AT 616-454-5021 AND TOLD IT TO PUT ME ON IT'S NO CALL LIST. IF THESE RIGHT WING CENSORSHIP MALADJUSTED STUPID SILLY FOOLISH LOSER MORON CLONES CALL AGAIN I'LL DEMAND FINANCIAL PENALTIES BE IMPOSED. THAT OUGHT TO START TO END THEIR ATTACK ON THE FIRST AMENDMENT. ADIOS DICK, DICK. GET A GOD GIVEN LIFE YOU STUPID CLOWN WITH FAR TOO MUCH TIME ON YOUR HANDS. TRY KNITTING SOCKS THAT YOU AND YOUR MEMBERS CAN WEAR OVER THEIR HEADS SO THEY DON'T HAVE TO WATCH MOVIES. BETTER YET, WHEN YOU SEE A MOVIE THAT OFFENDS YOU, DON'T WATCH IT AND LEAVE THE REST OF US ALONE. FEEL FREE TO SEND ME MONEY, HOWEVER, DON'T COUNT ON ME SENDING A CENT TO YOU. GOT IT DICK, DICK?( By the way, DICK, a DICK DICK is the smallest of the African elk. LIKE YOU ARE THE SMALLEST OF THE AMERICAN THINKERS).

    — GEODTODD · 2007-04-18 13:37 · #

  81. I get calls from the 616-361-2855 number all the time. My caller ID lists this number simply as "Michigan". Is this also the Dove Foundation? I personally never answer any calls that I don't exactly who it is.

    — Doug · 2007-04-18 13:42 · #

  82. Hey, Don't feel special. This BOT called Ontario Canada today. The call was from 1-877-291-7322. I was lucky and my machine answered the call. The BOT hung up. I get called at least 3-4 times per week. This really is BS.

    — Waylon · 2007-04-19 10:01 · #

  83. The call was from 1-800-679-0336 to MA and Tammy or Cammie said "May I speak to the lady of the house". I said "yes you are" and she began to speak very fast about her "non-profit:. I interrupted her and said "please add me to your do not call list." She laughed. I repeated this statement again and she continued to laugh. I repeated the statement again and she said very quickly "we will take care of this for you". I hope that they do not call me again.

    — Eileen · 2007-04-24 17:51 · #

  84. I have been getting these calls for a month now and i am fed up, my answer machine takes them and i never pick up.
    First it was "this is county" is the lady of the house there? After many calls that way it went to this is "Cammie". I never pick up because when she said foundation i knew they wanted money. They still call and never give up. THERE SHOULD BE A LAW AGAINST PRETENDING TO BE A CHARITY AND GETTING MONEY FROM RELIGIOUS DOPES THIS WAY!!!

    It works for them because they use Children & so called Family Values as an excuse to extort money from people. Don't buy there lame reasons for robbing you blind!!!

    — JANE · 2007-04-25 13:12 · #

  85. Yes... They're still calling! 5/16/07

    — Whizzed · 2007-05-16 17:05 · #

  86. Called Washington State today. I am disabled, and didn't get to the phone in time. Probably wouldn't have answered anyway. Don't know why I googled them tonight, but there is something telling when the top of the google list isn't their foundation website, but a bunch of forums of complaints about them. I am very bad, I am poor, so I hang up on charities and surveys all the time.

    — Another Eileen · 2007-05-18 01:48 · #

  87. Just got a call from Cammy. She started her rant and I asked her what the call was about. She said it was not a solicitation, so I asked her pointedly what she did want, and she hung up. I've been getting a number of hang-up calls nearly every day on my answering machine for the past month. Hmm.

    — lilybelle · 2007-05-18 11:22 · #

  88. they keep leaving that annoying message on my machine. It looks like the only thing they will understand is the same annoyance. find pcplus or procomm bbs software and set it up to dial their 1 800 number (be sure you have unlimited calling - don't do it at work) and set it for 1 sec repeat (999 times default). "set it and forget it" while you step out, for each time they call.

    — no one here · 2007-05-21 14:46 · #

  89. I had a pretty interesting call with Cammy tonight. I had googled dove foundation after she left several voice mails and knew that it was a computer. I was able to keep 'her' on the phone for several minutes by just talking in a calm sweet voice. I politely asked her is she was an idiot and she answered yes and then I asked her if is engaged in sexual intercourse with goats and she again answered yes. It was a riot. I was having a really good time until Cammy abrubtly hung up. I wish she would call back. I've got more questions to ask her!

    — Lisa S. · 2007-05-24 22:05 · #

  90. I had a pretty interesting call with Cammy tonight. I had googled dove foundation after she left several voice mails and knew that it was a computer. I was able to keep 'her' on the phone for several minutes by just talking in a calm sweet voice. I politely asked her is she was an idiot and she answered yes and then I asked her if is engaged in sexual intercourse with goats and she again answered yes. It was a riot. I was having a really good time until Cammy abrubtly hung up. I wish she would call back. I've got more questions to ask her!

    — Lisa S. · 2007-05-24 22:05 · #

  91. I'm glad this blog exists,since I just got a call from "Cammy" wishing to speak to "the lady of the house". If another call comes our way, I'll try to engage "her" in the same kind of conversation Lisa S. did (above)and hope I get lucky. Thanks, all, for the info.

    — Idwal · 2007-05-25 18:32 · #

  92. I got a call from the Dove Foundation yesterday. Needless to say, irritating. Cammy asked for the lady of the house and proceeded to say the survey would take 90 seconds ...yeah right. What was creepy was that it seemed not to matter what response I gave because her responses were always to say of course I would agree that family values are important so it made logical sense that I was already a de facto Dove supporter or something like that. I got fed up and blurted out that her 90 seconds were up and hung up.

    — SarahR · 2007-05-26 14:55 · #

  93. DOVE is alive and well in Alaska! My first call - or at least the first I've picked up. Don't generally answer 800 #'s - don't know why I did this one. The script was pretty much as described above. After terminating the call after about 30 seconds, I thought Cammy was just a batty old lady - now however I learn she's bot. Not the sort of Judeo-Christian family values I identify with - these people are con artists. I wonder how many decent well-meaning people they victimize? People caring for their families, giving their hard-earned money to frauds...

    — Russian Jack · 2007-05-30 20:19 · #

  94. Lisa S. is pure gold. I am in Canada, and the Cammy-disease has spread here too. I called them back and jumped down their throats, but they seem very accustomed to having it rammed there. Is there any way to make these posers pay for pretending to be good people? If there are legal means to make these douchbags suffer, I would love to hear it.

    Signed
    Time On My Hands

    — G-Spot · 2007-06-25 20:47 · #

  95. Dove Foundation has called us sporadically for about a year now, and at the most inopportune times. Such as early morning on the weekends. Late night during the week. Every time I answer, the phone is silent, then disconnects. We've been on the do not call list since its inception. Don't believe for a minute that they have anyone's interests in mind but their own. They have found a way to make money. As for those who would defend their tactics because of the need for family-friendly entertainment, I would remind you of Jesus' response to the temple moneychangers. They, too, were using religion to turn a profit. Organizations like this one do more harm than good, because they bring disrepute with their tactics.

    — Renata · 2007-07-06 09:58 · #

  96. A friend of mine referred me to this site after I complained bout them harrassing me.

    Whatever you do, don't talk to them. I was feeling generous and agreed to take their survey. A while later I get videos in the mail. Since I never ordered videos I sent them back, only to receive more videos. I opened the package to get the number to call to ask them to stop sending me videos. I told them I didn't want them, my son was too young, and besides I don't even own a VCR. They promised to send a return label, but instead they send my DVD's. I called them again, to get a return label but nothing ever happened.

    Then I start getting calls every day trying to collect the bill for those stupid videos. They claim Im responsible for the bill because I "didn't respond in the 30 trial period". When I explain what happened they just give me some supervisor's number and he promises to remedy the situation but nothing ever happens.

    And they have that stupid automated computer and you have to yell over the voice to talk to someone only for them to cut me off with the computer voice again. The last guy I talk to would even let me talk at all. I had to start screaming on the phone over him because he refused to listen and kept interupting me. When I finally told him what happened he decided that they had made a mistake. I owe for for the VHS AND the DVD's now.

    I flat out told them to stop calling me, that I would not pay them one penny that they are wasting their time calling me and the only way they can do anything is if they sue me and I'll appeal all the way to the US supreme court if I have to. And they flat our refused to comply saying they will call me as much as they want until I pay them money. Which they expect me to give them a credit card number over the phone.

    Well they have kept their promise. They started calling every day, several times if I hang up or don't answer.

    I no longer even answer my phone if I don't recognize the number. They tricked me yesterday though, caller ID said Sarah and Gabe, and looked like a local number, 616-597-4100. That's what I get for not paying attention to the area code.

    I plan on filing complaints with everyone I can think of now.

    — Amanda · 2007-07-20 17:05 · #

  97. From other websites, it seems that the "survey" is done and on its way to the UK. But here, in Dallas, I received a phone call from Cammie as I'm washing dishes after dinner (around 7 or so). My husband answered and handed the phone to me after having been asked for the lady of the house.

    I responded to their suggestion that the MPAA's ratings are increasingly getting more lenient. I told them the in the 1980's the PG movies had nudity and profanity and violence (just watch Goonies or Romancing the Stone). Just for the fact that I enjoyed Goonies as a kid, I allow my kids to watch it reminding them that it's not okay to say those words.

    She apparently didn't agree with me and continued on some other rant to which I replied: "uuuhhhhh" and she hung up. Nice.

    — Joe · 2008-01-19 22:39 · #

  98. You all sound like a bunch of cry babies to me!

    — Joe · 2008-04-10 19:49 · #

 
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