I love Linux, but I hate it.

2006-02-01 01:51

This’ll sound strange coming from someone making a living using and writing about Linux, but it’s damn hard to take it seriously sometimes.

Fedora Core 5 “development” for PPC is, in principle, able to run on my G5. In principle. After a day spent downloading images for the more stable release, only to find that they can’t even boot on a quad G5, I grabbed the development ISO. Then I downloaded about 6GB of RPM files and such.

I run the installer, I point it at my web server, and it gets to the point of retrieving a file… Then says that, apparently, the boot CD and the downloaded files don’t match.

Can I…

  • Order it to go ahead and use the downloaded files, which might be newer? No.
  • Get to a shell? No. (Or at least, not through any mechanism I could discover.)
  • Get any information about the basis for the allegation? Version numbers, for instance? No.
  • Use the boot CD for any purpose at all other than trying to install the exact set of files it thinks it wants to install, which it will not identify for me in any way? No.

I feel like I’m running Windows. The installer is absolutely bulletproof IF EVERYTHING WORKS. There is no escape. You can’t hit Ctrl-C and have the installer drop you into a shell. You can’t explore and get more information. You can’t use the same 30+MB boot image for both installation AND recovery. I don’t get it. This is supposed to be Unix! It’s supposed to let you do what you want, not try to think for you.

So, I went and downloaded a NEW copy of the boot disk, in case they were in the middle of an update between the boot image download and the RPM download. Same error message.

No override. No escape. Maybe I have the wrong image, even though I have the development boot image and the development RPMs. There’s no way to find out what’s happening. Come on, people! Surely, sometimes the installer doesn’t work.

What I have right now is a single tree, downloaded from the Fedora servers, for which the boot image and the corresponding files don’t match. There is nothing I can do. I am, once again, left wondering how anyone ever gets Linux to do anything. I would be totally fine with an option that lets me TRY the install, even if it “doesn’t match”. I’d be willing to give it a go. I would like to be in the land of Unix, where you are given enough rope to hang yourself.

(For those wondering why I don’t just hit Ctrl-Z: It doesn’t work on the Mac version. There is no hint of any way out of the installer setup into a shell.)

Edited to add: I tried again with a different version of the file. This one just gives “unable to retrieve the install image”. It does not say what file it was trying to retrieve. It does not give an error code of any sort. It doesn’t indicate whether it got a file, but thinks it’s the wrong file, or couldn’t get a file, or what. This is the kind of error message I expect from a System 7 Mac.

Peter Seebach

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Comments

  1. Is the stuff you need to work on available as source or only as pre-compiled .rpms? If it is, I'm thinking maybe Gentoo is the distro to use. Compile freaking everything yourself.

    PPC is the red-headed stepchild of Linux.

    — seebs_lawyer · 2006-02-05 23:01 · #

  2. ALL I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS PUT MY DAUGHTER FIRST
    HOW DID CITIGROUP MAKE THE LIST OF THE 100 BEST COMPANIES FOR WORKING MOTHERS TO WORK AT??????
    MOTHER FIRED VIA UPS 13 DAYS BEFORE CHRISTMAS AND STILL CITIBANK LIES TO CLIENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY DID
    IF YOU RECEIVE THIS A SECOND TIME I AM SORRY
    ALSO FEEL FREE TO POST AND FORWARD OUR STORY TO ANYONE YOU THINK COULD HELP US, THANKS

    ON SATURDAY I RECEIVED A LETTER FROM CITIGROUP THANKING ME FOR MY FIVE YEARS OF SERVICE YET THEY JUST EXPLAINED TO THE DFEH WHY THEY FIRED ME
    PLEASE HELP US GET TO THE TRUTH
    GETTTING THIS LETTER WAS VERY DISTURBING SINCE I FEEL I WAS WRONGFULLY TERMINATED
    I HAD NO PLANS TO LEAVE CITIBANK IN CARMEL
    THE LETTER EVEN STATES TO ANOTHER 5 YEARS BUT THEY FIRED ME!!!!!
    A FEW DAYS LATER I RECEIVE ANOTHER LETTER CONFIRMING THAT I WAS FIRED!
    HOW MESSED UP IS CITIGROUP??

    Subject: IS IT LEGAL TO LIE TO THE DFEH & US DEPT OF LABOR? CITIGROUP DID & THEY LIE TO CLIENTS IN CARMEL PLEASE READ THIS LETTER SENT TO THE MONTEREY HERALD
    The Monterey County Herald
    Attn: Herald Executive Editor, Carolina Garcia
    Monterey, CA 93940
    cgarcia@montereyherald.com
    (831) 646-4306
    Ms. Garcia,
    I have attempted through several sources to clarify my
    position regarding my unfair treatment by my previous
    employer, Citibank. I had no previous plans to leave
    my position as Head Teller at the Citibank branch in
    Carmel. After 4 years of employment with the company,
    the unfair and unequal treatment of employees led to
    medically supervised work-related stress. The manager
    of the branch then accused me of job abandonment which
    led to my termination via UPS delivery on December 15,
    2005, while I was at home on medical leave.

    Subsequent to my termination, I received numerous
    correspondences that referenced me as terminated, no
    longer with the company, and as a former employee. My
    401K and pension have both been forwarded to me.
    However, when interviewed by the Department of Fair
    Employment and Housing, Citibank representatives
    reported that I was terminated due to not personally
    reporting my absence, but rather having medical
    documentation reported by my physician. When
    interviewed by the U. S. Department Wage and Hours
    Division, Citibank representatives reported on August
    8, 2006, that I was still an employee of the company
    and that a letter indicating such would be forwarded
    to me. To date, this letter has not been received.

    I have continued to be in contact with several clients
    that have stated that Citibank representatives
    indicated that I was either on vacation, or that I
    voluntarily resigned in order to work with my husband
    in his new business. This is absolutely untrue. It was
    my intention to continue my employment as the benefits
    were extremely important to me, as well as to my
    family.

    Clearly, there has been a gross misrepresentation by
    Citibank, either to its clients or to the U. S.
    Department Wage and Hours Division. It is my position
    that I was unfairly terminated by Citibank. The
    unscrupulous behavior of Citibank and its
    representatives, locally and at the corporate level,
    is unacceptable.

    It is also my opinion that if a corporation as large
    as Citibank is representing itself on a local level,
    the local management and staff should act accordingly.
    A large part of the attraction of the Monterey area is
    the sense of community that is felt here on a day to
    day basis. If Citibank is allowed to misrepresent its
    actions to clients and government agencies, where will
    the corporate takeover end?
    SINCERELY

    Damari Stratford
    dcsbears@aol.com
    1291 ORD GROVE AVE, SEASIDE CA 93955
    831-583-9077
    Subject: Re: Your message to the governor was received
    THE GOVERNOR HAS WRITTEN ME TWICE AND SAID HE WOULD
    HELP,, CITIBANK HAS LIED TO THE DFEH AND US LABOR DEPT
    WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION AND TO THEIR CLIENTS ABOUT MY
    STATUS, I NEED HELP, HOW CAN I FIGHT WHEN THIS
    CORPORATION IS TELLING LIES AND HAS ALL THE LAWYERS
    THEY NEED AND I CAN'T AFFORD ONE. HOW MANY TIMES ARE
    THEY GOING TO GET AWAY WITH MISTREATING EMPLOYEES
    ON 8/8/06 RONAN FROM THE US DEPT OF LABOR WAS TOLD BY
    A CITIBANK ATTORNEY THAT THEY WOULD SEND ME A LETTER
    EXPLAINING MY STATUS AS STILL AN EMPLOYEE, I HAVE YET
    TO GET THIS LETTER, HOW LONG DOES IT TAKE TO PUT A
    LETTER TOGETHER IF THEY ARE TELLING THE TRUTH?
    YOUR OFFICE AS WELL AS THE FIRST LADY'S OFFICE HAS
    CALLED ME BUT WE AREN'T GETTING ANYWHERE. IT HAS BEEN
    7 MONTHS SINCE I FIRST WROTE THE GOVERNOR. CITIBANK
    ATTORNEYS HAVE CANCELLED 2 DEPOSITIONS AT THE LAST
    MINUTE THE LAST INE THEY CANCELLED WAS AFTER TALKING
    TO THE US LABOR DEPARTMENT,WHY?
    MY JOB WAS VERY IMPORTANT TO MY FAMILY AND I PLEASE
    HELP ME AND MY FAMILY AND ALL THOSE BEFORE ME THAT
    HAVE BEEN WRONGFULLY TERMINATED BY CITIBANK FOR NO
    GOOD REASON
    WHY IS EVERYONE SO AFRAID OF CITIGROUP? WHY CAN'T I
    FIND AN ATTORNEY WILLING TO STAND UP TO THEM ON A
    CONTINGENCY BASIS? I VOTED FOR THE GOVERNOR AND I NEED
    HIM NOW
    PLEASE CALL ANN FROM THE DFEH AT 408-277-1916 THEY
    TOLD HER THAT I HAD CALLED IN ILL ON 11/15/05 AND THAT
    I TOLD THEM I WOULDN'T BE IN, THIS IS A LIE I WORKED
    THAT DAY AND I CAN PROVE THIS WITH MY IME CARD, THEN
    THEY SAY THEY MADE AN ERROR
    PLEASE CALL RONAN AT 415-744-5590 EXT 226 FROM THE US
    LABOR DEPT TO VERIFY WHAT CITIBANK ATTORNEYS SAID. THE
    ONLY REASON THEY OFFERED ME FMLA IS BECAUSE I FILED
    FOR DISABILITY, BEFORE THAT THEY HAD PAID OUT MY FINAL
    PAYCHECK, FIRED ME VIA UPS, SENT ME COBRA INFORMATION.
    PLEASE HELP US PLEASE SEE THAT THE GOVERNOR GETS THIS
    EMAIL AND ASK HIM TO MAKE A CALL ON MY BEHALF
    CORPORATE AMERICA NEEDS TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEIR
    GOOD EMPLOYEES AND NOT ALLOW A MANAGER WITH BAD SKILLS
    TO FIRE SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE HE WANTS TO
    SINCERELY DAMARI STARTFROD
    MOTHER WIFE HUMAN BEING AND I VOTED FOR THE GOVERNOR
    I MATTER TOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    CITIBANK IN CARMEL LIES TO CLIENTS ABOUT WHY I AM NOT
    THERE. THEY TELL PEOPLE THAT I AM ON VACATION OR THAT
    I LEFT TO WORK FOR MY HUSBAND INSTEAD OF TELLING THEM
    HAT THEY FIRED ME AFTER MY DOCTOR FAXED IN A NOTE AND
    CALLED IN FOR ME TO PROTECT ME FROM HAVING MY BLOOD
    PRESSURE RISE. JEFF URSINO AND KATHLEEN MUNOZ LIES TO
    ANN AT THE DFEH AND THEIR LAWYERS LIED TO THE US DEPT
    OF LABOR. KATHLEN WAS DOING THE OVERDRAFT ON HER
    DAUGHTERS ACCOUNTS AND REFUNDED HER OWN DAUHGTER MONEY
    WHILE THE MANAGER WAS ON VACATION. SHE LIES ABOUT
    BEING FIRED FROM WELLS FARGO, SHE LIED TO THE WORKERS
    COMP PEOPLE AND WILL LIE TO ANYONE. KATHLEEN HAD
    INSTUCTED THE OTHER TELLERS TO COOK THE BOOKS BY
    HAVING THEM PUT IN FALSE REFEERALS AND JEFF URSINO DID
    NOTHING ABOUT IT BUT I GOT WRITTEN UP FOR MISSING WORK
    WITH A DOCTORS NOTE. THEY STATE TO ONE AGENCY THAT I
    WAS FIRED AND TO THE OTHER THAT I AM STILL EMPLOYED,
    THEY STATE I WAS FIRED FOR NOT CALLING IN YET I WAS
    RESPONSIBLE ENOUGH TO HAVE MY DOCTOEOR CALL IN AND FAX
    MY NOTE IN DUE TO THE STRESS AND HARRASSMENT BROUGHT
    ON BY JEFF AND CITIBANK, WHERE ARE THE ETHICS IN THIS
    COMPANY


    NOW THEY ARE TELLING MORE LIES TO THE DEPT OF FAIR
    EMPLOYMENT AND HOUSING JEFF TELLS THEM WHY I WAS FIRED
    AND THEIR LAWYERS TELL THE US DEPT OF LABOR THAT I AM
    STILL EMPLOYEED
    PLEASE HELP US GET THIS STORY OUT TO THE WORLD IF IT
    ISN'T TOO MUCH TO ASK:) HOW DO YOU FIGHT LIARS, HOW DO
    THEY SLEEP AT NIGHT
    CITIBANK IN CARMEL 831-624-8258 CALL AND ASK THEM
    WHERE I AM ASK FOR KATHLEEN AND ASK HER WHY SHE LIES
    THIS WOMAN WAS HAVING CITIBANK PAY FOR HER DAUGHTER
    OVERDRAFTS AND HER A TELLER REFUND HER OWN DAUGHTER
    MONEY WHILE THE MANAGER WAS OUT ON VACATION SO WHY
    SHOULD ANYONE BELEIVE THIS UNETHICAL PERSON JUST AS
    JEFF URSINO THE MANAGER OF THE CAPITOLA BRANCH LIES TO
    HIS BOSSES TO MAKE HIMSELF LOOK BETTER PLEASE HELP US
    WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF TIME
    HOW DO YOU FIGHT A CORPORATION LIKE THIS
    Extra! Extra! Read all about it!
    DAMARI AND CITIBANK HERE IS THE TRUTH!!
    To set the record straight!
    Damari was fired by Citibank in Carmel!
    Damari did not leave the bank to go work for her
    husband!!!!
    DAMARI HAD NO PLANS TO LEAVE CITIBANK!
    DAMARI PLANNED ON STAYING FOR ANOTHER 16YRS.
    THE BENEFITS WERE VERY IMPORTANT TO HER FAMILY!!
    DAMARI WAS FIRED VIA UPS WHILE AT HOME ILL DUE TO WORK
    RELATED STRESS BROUGHT ON BY THE MANAGER AND THE
    UNFAIR AND UNEQUAL TREATMENT OF EMPLOYEES
    ALONG WITH BEING THREATEN AND HARASSED
    BY THE MANAGER FOR JOB ABANDOMENT.
    SEVERAL OF
    Citibank clients have TOLD HER that they have been
    told by the staff at the Carmel branch :
    THAT SHE LEFT TO GO WORK FOR HER HUSBAND!
    THIS IS AN OUTRIGHT LIE!!!!
    What else will they lie about?
    Are they ashamed of what was done??
    WHY DO THEY FEEL THEY NEED TO SAY SHE LEFT TO GO WORK
    WITH HER HUSBAND
    ( I DO NOT WORK FOR MY HUSBAND)
    ( I DO NOT WORK FOR JND PLUMBING)
    (NOR AM I ON VACATION)
    INSTEAD OF JUST TELLING THE TRUTH ?
    IS THERE ANYONE IN THE CARMEL BRANCH THAT COULD SWEAR
    TO THIS? NO!

    ENOUGH WITH THE LIES CITIBANK!!!
    IF YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD THIS PLEASE SEND HER AN EMAIL
    CITIBANK TOLD
    THE US LABOR DEPT WAGE AND HOUR DIVISION ,
    ON 08/08/06
    THAT I AM STILL AN EMPLOYEE
    YET I HAVE LETTERS AND DOCUMENTS
    THAT CLEARLY USE THE WORDS
    TERMINATED
    NO LONGER WITH THE COMPANY
    FORMER EMPLOYEE
    AND MY 401K AND PENSION HAVE BEEN SENT TO ME AS OF
    8/24/06 I HAVE YET TO GET THE LETTER FROM CITIBANK
    WHICH EXPLAINS HOW I AM STILL AN EMPLOYEE! HOW LONG
    DOES IT TAKE TO WRITE A LETTER IF YOU ARE TELLING THE
    TRUTH HOW CAN THEY SAY TO THE US DEPT OF LABOR THAT I
    AM STILL AN EMPLOYEE YET THEY TELL THE DFEH THAT THEY
    FIRED ME FOR NOT CALLING IN, WHAT IS THE TRUTH
    CITIBANK??????????
    CITIBANK STATES THAT I WAS FIRED FOR NOT CALLING IN
    YET MY DOCTOR CALLED IN FOR ME THE DAY BEFORE AND ALSO
    FAXED IN A NOTE FOR ME WHICH THE MANAGER RETURNED TO
    ME WITH MY LETTER OF TERMINATION. THEY KNEW THE DAY
    BEFORE THAT I WASN'T COMING IN SO WHY WOULD HE CALL TO
    ASK IF I WAS COMING IN IF IT WAS CLEARLY STATED ON THE
    NOTE AND TOLD TO THEM BY MY DOCTOR TO PROTECT MY
    HEALTH
    JUST MORE LIES BY THE CITIBANK STAFF IN CARMEL

    SENT TO--DCSbears...

    I whole heartedly understand you delemma, and my heart goes
    out to you.
    a few years back, I worked for citibank/corp. for one full year.
    It was without doubt the worst job, and the worst nightmare I have
    ever lived. The treatment of employees was abominable, among many
    other things. .
    I worked with people that had been there for years. They were not treated
    any better, than I was.
    I quit in the middle of the day. I sat in my car for a good twenty minutes
    breathing in what was for me, the most fresh air I had in one year.
    In the following year, at least six people I had worked with, and had been there
    for years, were let go, with the very worst excuses ever. Of course the lost all
    benifits, and retirments.
    Needless to say, I have never again banked with them, or used one of their credit
    cards, or have done any other business with them, whatsoever, and when asked I inform orher companies why.
    I have always...and to this day, informed everyone within earshot, of that disgusting thing, know as "citibank/corp.
    I am sorry they got you. I hope you get them.

    FROM AOL BLOG THANK YOU FOR YOU THOUGHTS
    CITIBANK FIRES ME FOR NOT "FOLLOWING POLICY "
    YET THEY DIDN'T FOLLOW THEIR OWN POLICY CITIBANK IS UN FAIR AND UNEQUAL TREATMENT OF EMPLOYEES
    WHAT KIND OF MAN FIRES YOU WHILE YOU ARE ILL KNOWING THAT YOU HAVE WORK RELATED STRESS AND YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE IS UP?
    HOW HEARTLESS IS THIS CITIBANK MANAGER WHO COULDN'T WAIT FOR ME TO GET WELL?
    CITIBANK MADE THE LIST OF THE 100 BEST COMPANIES FOR WORKING MOTHERS BUT AS I WAS ATTEMPTING TO PUT MY DAUGHTER FIRST THEY FIRED ME!!!
    I WASN'T GIVEN AN EXIT INTERVIEW NOR WERE MY KEYS ASK FOR BUT THAT IS THEIR POLICY! HE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE MY FINAL PAYCHECK WITH MY LETTER OF TERMINATION AND THEY DEPOSITED IT INTO MY ACCOUNT WHICH IS NOT CALIF CODE
    THE FOLLOWING IS FROM SOMEONE ON LINE
    My heart goes out for you, just know that things happen for a resound and what go around must come around!! I myself am having my own issue with Citibank!!! I was approved for a lone and used my car as collateral which later I contacted them to hand me over the Title for renewal and it?s been now 3 ½ months I have been waiting for it and now have to deal with my vehicle parked without insurance and Citibank?s excuse is that Motor Vehicle can not locate my title and the most frustrating thing is that all the time I call I must have gave my # over 20 times and never get a call back regarding the status of my situation I would have to repeat myself all over again to a new rep??.How frustrating!!! Well that is the story of life??????Drama??????.Good Luck.
    To OCC office

    THank you for your reply and for requesting information form Citibank. Citibank states that I was fired for not following policy but yet they didn't follow their own policy and guide lines nor were they equal and fair in how they treated each employee.

    Citibank states that I was fired for not calling in, but I did have my doctor call in at the end of my doctors appointment on 12/12/05 and my doctor also faxed on a note. Contact was made with the bank. My doctor called in to protect my health.
    I have copies of some of Citibank policy which are in the employee hand book and from what I have read Citibank and the manager didn't follow proper procedure. Before firing they are to consider your work performance and take that into consideration and my reviews were very good. I never got a verbal warning just written up and the write up was not correct with errors. Citibank gives an exit interview which I didn't get nor was I asked to send in my keys.
    Citibank sent me my Cobra papers and never offered me FMLA, when they find put that I was applying for disability or that I was disabled they reinstated my benefits and made them retro to 01/01/06 WHY BECAUSE THEY MESSED UP
    Citibank then sends me a check for about six weeks worth of pay with no deductions for benefits then all of a sudden they start deducting for medical and dental and now I have to pay for these benefits out of my pocket
    Many if Citibank clients have told me they have been told that I left to work for my husband or that I am on vacation.
    Lisa Austin of Citigroup mentioned that when I go back to work they would set up payments for some of these benefits but she couldn't explain how this would happened after I explained that I had been fired. Is Citibank going to fire me again via UPS when my doctor feels that I am well enough to look for work?
    Citibank didn't; follow policy to the tee and fires me for not following policy to the tee but had no heart about me being ill and my doctor helping me out.
    Citibank made the list of the best 100 companies for working mother to work at but as I try to put my daughter first they started harassing me with abandonment and corrective action.
    My seniority didn't matter to them.
    Ronon at the US Dept of labor, wage and hour division ( 1-415-744-5590 ext 226 ) was told by Citigroup attorney that I was still employed and they would send a letter to explain but the letter never came.
    Citibank fired me while in the middle of a workers comp pending case.
    Ann at the DFEH ( 1-408-277-1916 ) was lied to by Jeff Ursino and Kathleen Munoz, they explain to the DFEH how and why they fired me.
    Again Citibank violated state labor codes and more.
    Employees which are unethical are still working there and I get fired for having my doctor call in, these employees broke company policy and still have jobs.
    Citibank recently sent me a letter thanking me for my five years of service and it states looking forward to another five years but I was fired on 12/13/05 a few days later a get another letter stating that yes I had been terminated and the stocks that were issued to me for being a good employee had been taken back due to an error in their system. I believe the only error is that I was wrongfully terminated and Citibank is back tracking trying to cover up their mistakes.
    My pension and 401k have been sent to me due to termination and then I get the letter saying looking forward to another five years.
    Jeff Ursino knew that the tellers were cooking the books and none of them were written up or fired. Kathleen was refunding her daughter money and having Citibank pay for her overdrafts and she still has a job and Jeff knew about this. Unfair unequal treatment of employees.
    Why did it take Citibank a few weeks to give me a clear reason as to why I was fired? Why was my final check deposited into my account, why was I fired via UPS, Why was my final check not ordered until 12/14/05? Why did Chrys Smith call workers comp on 12/14/05 to see if my case was going to be denied but yet didn't bother telling them that they had already fired me? This is violation of code 132A.
    Why doesn't the staff at Citibank in Carmel simply say "she is no longer with us" instead of all the lies?
    Why was Citibank so strict with me and the policy and yet not the other employees?
    Why was it ok for Andrea to change her schedule but not me and I had the seniority over her?
    Citibank told the Office of Thrift Supervision that they were dealing with it internally and the office asked them to send me a letter of explanation yet they never did.
    How many other state codes have they ignored and violated?
    Jeff Ursino states that he was calling to see if I was coming in yet he returns to me the faxed in note by my doctor with my letter of termination which clearly stated that I would be out for a few more days? Jeff knew I wasn't coming in he just fired me because I wanted to communicate via email to protect my blood pressure and stress level. Is it against the law to protect yourself? They wamt to hold me to the letter of theit policy but don't follow their policy or state codes to the letter of policy.

    — DAMARI STRATFORD · 2006-11-06 07:38 · #

 
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